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	<description>Chinese, Linguistics, Science, Cultural Observations and whatever else I feel like writing about</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-83312</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bother to "convert" large numbers?

I was doing some arithmetic with large numbers the other day. I found it easier to use four-digit "chunks" than three digit chunks. Why do you think the Chinese language splits up large numbers that way? It is just easier to think of numbers in the Chinese notation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother to &#8220;convert&#8221; large numbers?</p>
<p>I was doing some arithmetic with large numbers the other day. I found it easier to use four-digit &#8220;chunks&#8221; than three digit chunks. Why do you think the Chinese language splits up large numbers that way? It is just easier to think of numbers in the Chinese notation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinosplice: Life</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-21787</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinosplice: Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Chinese Number Tool...&lt;/strong&gt;

A little while back I recommended that Mark of the blog Doubting to shuō make an online number conversion tool similar to his Pinyin Tone Tool and Cantonese Tone Tool.  Well, Mark has done it. These are the kinds of conversions it can do:




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<p>A little while back I recommended that Mark of the blog Doubting to shuō make an online number conversion tool similar to his Pinyin Tone Tool and Cantonese Tone Tool.  Well, Mark has done it. These are the kinds of conversions it can do:</p>
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		<title>By: b1lfwa</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>b1lfwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>很不错哦,,支持呀,,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>很不错哦,,支持呀,,,</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... you must have tried negative 十, 百 or 千, then.  The first time I checked, I just did a few negative floating point numbers, 負四 and 負万.  I just checked the tool and those were the three that it didn't work with.  Thanks for the feedback.  I'll post about your tool on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; you must have tried negative 十, 百 or 千, then.  The first time I checked, I just did a few negative floating point numbers, 負四 and 負万.  I just checked the tool and those were the three that it didn&#8217;t work with.  Thanks for the feedback.  I&#8217;ll post about your tool on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it wasn't working with 四万亿 or 萬億 or with 个 added in but I've fixed that now.  It seems to work as expected with the other numbers in the posts above.  Could you say which are causing errors?  A post asking others to test it would be much appreciated.

  AJAX is pretty cool.  I'll be updating a lot of my web pages to use it over the next few months.  The reason I kept everything in Perl is to make it easier to reuse with my other projects.  The main reason I use a separate results box that isn't a text area is so that I can display the Chinese results using GIFs at some point for people without Chinese support on their computer.

  I tried negative numbers in your tool, both using - and 負 and neither seemed to work.  I use FireFox 1.5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it wasn&#8217;t working with 四万亿 or 萬億 or with 个 added in but I&#8217;ve fixed that now.  It seems to work as expected with the other numbers in the posts above.  Could you say which are causing errors?  A post asking others to test it would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>  AJAX is pretty cool.  I&#8217;ll be updating a lot of my web pages to use it over the next few months.  The reason I kept everything in Perl is to make it easier to reuse with my other projects.  The main reason I use a separate results box that isn&#8217;t a text area is so that I can display the Chinese results using GIFs at some point for people without Chinese support on their computer.</p>
<p>  I tried negative numbers in your tool, both using - and 負 and neither seemed to work.  I use FireFox 1.5</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it's a little bit of a surprise to hear from you.  I'd thought you'd stopped working on your page. You've really improved your converter quite a bit, and done it in under a week.  Way to go!  I'm amazed, to be honest.  Your converter still is generating some weird output, though.  My advice is to go through the comments on this post and run all of them through your tool.  After that, if you like, I'll make a separate post about your converter and see if people will test it for you.

It was a really hard choice for me to NOT make this tool in Perl as you did with yours.  As I've said elsewhere, I don't even know JavaScript, really.  If you try putting multi-line input into my tool you'll see that while it works in both IE and Mozilla, it doesn't look quite as nice in IE, due to IE's less than perfect Jscript regex support.  In the end though, I decided to use JavaScript anyway, because of performance reasons.  I think your switch from pure CGI to AJAX was a huge improvement.  It's a good compromise.  Another thing you did that I've been considering is, to make separate text boxes for the input and the results.

As for negative numbers, I didn't think about them but it turns out that my tool does support them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s a little bit of a surprise to hear from you.  I&#8217;d thought you&#8217;d stopped working on your page. You&#8217;ve really improved your converter quite a bit, and done it in under a week.  Way to go!  I&#8217;m amazed, to be honest.  Your converter still is generating some weird output, though.  My advice is to go through the comments on this post and run all of them through your tool.  After that, if you like, I&#8217;ll make a separate post about your converter and see if people will test it for you.</p>
<p>It was a really hard choice for me to NOT make this tool in Perl as you did with yours.  As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, I don&#8217;t even know JavaScript, really.  If you try putting multi-line input into my tool you&#8217;ll see that while it works in both IE and Mozilla, it doesn&#8217;t look quite as nice in IE, due to IE&#8217;s less than perfect Jscript regex support.  In the end though, I decided to use JavaScript anyway, because of performance reasons.  I think your switch from pure CGI to AJAX was a huge improvement.  It&#8217;s a good compromise.  Another thing you did that I&#8217;ve been considering is, to make separate text boxes for the input and the results.</p>
<p>As for negative numbers, I didn&#8217;t think about them but it turns out that my tool does support them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1556</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The converter at http://www.mandarintools.com/numbers.html did have many problems (thanks for the bug reports) but I've gone through and it should be fixed now.  I'd appreciate feedback on how it currently works.

Does the new tool handle negative numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The converter at <a href="http://www.mandarintools.com/numbers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mandarintools.com/numbers.html</a> did have many problems (thanks for the bug reports) but I&#8217;ve gone through and it should be fixed now.  I&#8217;d appreciate feedback on how it currently works.</p>
<p>Does the new tool handle negative numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 04:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should it?  I've never heard people say that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should it?  I&#8217;ve never heard people say that before.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Shi</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1538</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Shi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about: 十之

Should it be 10%?

The tool can't handle that.

thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about: 十之</p>
<p>Should it be 10%?</p>
<p>The tool can&#8217;t handle that.</p>
<p>thx</p>
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		<title>By: Gin</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2006/chinese-math-tool/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>Gin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not 2.6百, nor 35千.  
You are beautiful, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not 2.6百, nor 35千.<br />
You are beautiful, man.</p>
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