Comments on: First Impressions of Beijing http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/ Chinese, Linguistics, Science, Cultural Observations and whatever else I feel like writing about Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:56:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jon http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-8277 Jon Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:41:26 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-8277 I've been offered a job in Beijing at 12,000 RMD a month plus free apartment and utilities. How would that stack up with the cost of living in Beijing? Thanks I’ve been offered a job in Beijing at 12,000 RMD a month plus free apartment and utilities. How would that stack up with the cost of living in Beijing?

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]]> By: Mark http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6146 Mark Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:29:20 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6146 They thing about all those rickshaw drivers and scam artists is they're all congregated around like 大扎兰 (da shi lar) and the other tourist places. Away from that area, I didn't see many. Unfortunately, those rude guys are the first thing most foreign visitors in Beijing will see. <br /> BTW, I met one of the guys who runs Danwei during my trip. I <a href=http://toshuo.com/2006/seeing-beijing-with-brendan/ rel="nofollow">blogged about it</a>, too. They thing about all those rickshaw drivers and scam artists is they’re all congregated around like 大扎兰 (da shi lar) and the other tourist places. Away from that area, I didn’t see many. Unfortunately, those rude guys are the first thing most foreign visitors in Beijing will see.

BTW, I met one of the guys who runs Danwei during my trip. I blogged about it, too.

]]> By: Kun http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6141 Kun Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:29:39 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6141 haha. haha. well, about those rickshaw guys, nobody can help them, low education and low income, so they might rude :( but my western friend never told me about rickshaw guys, but there always some people like to say "Halou" and start sell stuff to western. here is a website called "DANWEI TV" www.danwei.tv is some short film about BJ and update every weeks. or maybe u already know this website. if u have another changce come 2 BJ again, u can going to 鼓楼大街 Gu-Lou Da-Jie, there has a 胡同hutong area, and 中央戏剧学院 is there, Zang Ziyi and Gong Li's school. I'm was in a short film crew which shoot there. and meet a lot foreigner but I didn't see any rude rickshaw guys there(rickshaw guys there are belong some company I think.) haha.
haha.

well, about those rickshaw guys, nobody can help them, low education and low income, so they might rude :(
but my western friend never told me about rickshaw guys, but there always some people like to say “Halou” and start sell stuff to western.

here is a website called “DANWEI TV”
http://www.danwei.tv
is some short film about BJ and update every weeks. or maybe u already know this website.

if u have another changce come 2 BJ again, u can going to 鼓楼大街 Gu-Lou Da-Jie, there has a 胡同hutong area, and 中央戏剧学院 is there, Zang Ziyi and Gong Li’s school. I’m was in a short film crew which shoot there. and meet a lot foreigner but I didn’t see any rude rickshaw guys there(rickshaw guys there are belong some company I think.)

]]> By: Mark http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6133 Mark Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:38:14 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6133 Kun, you must not have read much of my blog. I <i>did</i> <a href=http://toshuo.com/2006/loving-beijing/ rel="nofollow">love Beijing</a>. I'm not sure how you can possibly think I was "complaining about everything". As for the rickshaw guys, I did leave them alone. They just wouldn't leave me alone. I got harassed by them a <i>minimum</i> of 15 times a day. And there wasn't a single day that went by in which people didn't try to rip me off or aggressively try to sell overpriced crap to me just because I I'm white. I don't think I'll ever like those aspects of the city, no matter how long I live there. Still, I enjoyed Beijing quite a bit, despite the problems. I think I'd enjoy living there, as long as it was away from the touristy 前门 area. P.S. Do you look western, Kun? If not, then you have no idea what it's like getting ripped off and harassed by bozos who see you as a walking money dispenser. Kun, you must not have read much of my blog. I did love Beijing. I’m not sure how you can possibly think I was “complaining about everything”.

As for the rickshaw guys, I did leave them alone. They just wouldn’t leave me alone. I got harassed by them a minimum of 15 times a day. And there wasn’t a single day that went by in which people didn’t try to rip me off or aggressively try to sell overpriced crap to me just because I I’m white. I don’t think I’ll ever like those aspects of the city, no matter how long I live there.

Still, I enjoyed Beijing quite a bit, despite the problems. I think I’d enjoy living there, as long as it was away from the touristy 前门 area.

P.S. Do you look western, Kun? If not, then you have no idea what it’s like getting ripped off and harassed by bozos who see you as a walking money dispenser.

]]> By: Kun http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6125 Kun Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:23:29 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6125 I do not agree with u on some point about darkside in Beijing. I living in BJ for a year,as u see im not a Beijinger. Beijing is more amazing than u thought. When I just arrived in BJ, I just like u, complain about everything in BJ. but when u understand BJ, u will lovin it. Shanghai is a economic city, BJ is a culture metropolis. wanna make money? yeah, SH is a good choice, wanna experience culture? there two city in the world can be ur first choose: 1 Paris, 2 Beijing(before it become 2 another skyscraper city) maybe when u come 2 BJ next time, u will change ur mind. BTW: about those rickshaw guy? just let them alone, it will be ok, nobody will kill ya, lol. I do not agree with u on some point about darkside in Beijing. I living in BJ for a year,as u see im not a Beijinger. Beijing is more amazing than u thought.

When I just arrived in BJ, I just like u, complain about everything in BJ. but when u understand BJ, u will lovin it.

Shanghai is a economic city, BJ is a culture metropolis. wanna make money? yeah, SH is a good choice, wanna experience culture? there two city in the world can be ur first choose: 1 Paris, 2 Beijing(before it become 2 another skyscraper city)

maybe when u come 2 BJ next time, u will change ur mind.

BTW: about those rickshaw guy? just let them alone, it will be ok, nobody will kill ya, lol.

]]> By: massachusetts republican http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6093 massachusetts republican Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:48:32 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6093 China can not remain divided. Not because both free china and slave china want to rule the other but because communist ideology has always been war like and expansionist. Beijing won’t let Taiwan live in peace. It has consistently remained committed to confrontation. If heaven forbid there is ever another civil war in china it will be the fault of the communists. I believe that Taiwan should not join the UN, instead the communist dictatorship should be striped of its membership and the UN seat given back to Taipei. The decision in 1971 to all but send Taiwan into political isolation was one of the stupidest in the cold war. We in the US should have held firm and if the communist hadn’t liked it told them either reform or shut up. read the rest at my site if you like. btw I like this blog, its now on my fav list China can not remain divided. Not because both free china and slave china want to rule the other but because communist ideology has always been war like and expansionist. Beijing won’t let Taiwan live in peace. It has consistently remained committed to confrontation. If heaven forbid there is ever another civil war in china it will be the fault of the communists. I believe that Taiwan should not join the UN, instead the communist dictatorship should be striped of its membership and the UN seat given back to Taipei. The decision in 1971 to all but send Taiwan into political isolation was one of the stupidest in the cold war. We in the US should have held firm and if the communist hadn’t liked it told them either reform or shut up.

read the rest at my site if you like.
btw I like this blog, its now on my fav list

]]> By: trevelyan http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6059 trevelyan Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:56:49 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6059 两个字: 水儿. 两个字: 水儿.

]]> By: Laoban http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6022 Laoban Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:07:19 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6022 How about 空儿 kong er? There's something about kong and er that really doesn't go together well. Mark, what about nay ge rather than nage (那个? Do the use nay ge and zhay ge for 这个 那个 in Taiwan like Beijing? How about 空儿 kong er? There’s something about kong and er that really doesn’t go together well.

Mark, what about nay ge rather than nage (那个? Do the use nay ge and zhay ge for 这个 那个 in Taiwan like Beijing?

]]> By: John B http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6019 John B Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:11:23 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-6019 I remember the first time my wife asked for a 份儿 of something. I just looked at her funny and asked, "Honey, what the hell is a 'fer'?" 味儿 is another personal favorite. Man I love 儿音. :) I remember the first time my wife asked for a 份儿 of something. I just looked at her funny and asked, “Honey, what the hell is a ‘fer’?” 味儿 is another personal favorite.

Man I love 儿音. :)

]]> By: Laoban http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-5999 Laoban Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:44:25 +0000 http://toshuo.com/2006/first-impressions-of-beijing/#comment-5999 I have actually found the selling to be less agressive in Beijing than elsewhere in China. Prostitutes being generally out of sight and (mostly) not harassing you is also much more pleasant for the male traveller than in other places. On the other hand, less grandfathers are blowing their noses or hacking onto the footpath next to you in Shanghai and Hong Kong. You're right Mark S. every time I go back there are more audis and less bicycles. I like Beijing because it is old, brooding and dusty. I have actually found the selling to be less agressive in Beijing than elsewhere in China. Prostitutes being generally out of sight and (mostly) not harassing you is also much more pleasant for the male traveller than in other places. On the other hand, less grandfathers are blowing their noses or hacking onto the footpath next to you in Shanghai and Hong Kong.
You’re right Mark S. every time I go back there are more audis and less bicycles.
I like Beijing because it is old, brooding and dusty.

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