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	<title>Comments on: Kevin Rudd&#039;s Good at Chinese&#8230; Even Bad Chinese</title>
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		<title>By: Links for 2007-12-03 &#124; bent</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4393</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for 2007-12-03 &#124; bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kevin Rudd’s Good at Chinese… Even Bad Chinese Doubting to Shuo has video of Australian PM-elect Kevin Rudd being interviewed in Chinese. (tags: International) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: john q</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4392</link>
		<dc:creator>john q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd studied Chinese at Taiwan Normal University in Taipei in 1980.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd studied Chinese at Taiwan Normal University in Taipei in 1980.</p>
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		<title>By: John D.</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4391</link>
		<dc:creator>John D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Rudd, the Prime Minister of Australia, and leader of the Australian Labour Party, majored in Chinese at the Australian National University,and in the &#039;80s was a diplomat in Beijing. He has no connection with Taiwan and never studied there.Australia recognises only one China, the PRC, of which Taiwan is an integral part.
Kevin Rudd is the only Western leader that can speak Chinese, and was the first to invite President Hu Jintao to make a state visit.He is very interested in fostering closer relations betwee Australia and China.
I don&#039;t know whare Mingers gets his/her information but it is wrong.In mainland china, people from the top to the bottom greatly appreciate foreigners who try to speak Chinese,no matter how little and how bad, because it shows they have taken the trouble to learn it,which in turn shows an interest in China and its culture.
Vitaly,your point is also incorrect and equally ridiculous. There is no such common rule.If you think there is, state your reference and whose rule it is. if you cannot, then stop trying to introduce silly arguments.
It is quite obvious that just because someone is addressed in a particular language, he may not reply in that language because he nmay not speak it, so what are you talking about? Prime Minister Rudd is well known and popular in China, because whethere he is being interviewed by Chinese journalists, or addressing a meeting, or just talking to ordinary Chinese, they can understand him.If you can&#039;t, that is your problem. I just wish I could speak Mandarin as well as him, but in the meantime, my mainland Chinese wife and all our family are quite happy with the little I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Rudd, the Prime Minister of Australia, and leader of the Australian Labour Party, majored in Chinese at the Australian National University,and in the &#8217;80s was a diplomat in Beijing. He has no connection with Taiwan and never studied there.Australia recognises only one China, the PRC, of which Taiwan is an integral part.<br />
Kevin Rudd is the only Western leader that can speak Chinese, and was the first to invite President Hu Jintao to make a state visit.He is very interested in fostering closer relations betwee Australia and China.<br />
I don&#8217;t know whare Mingers gets his/her information but it is wrong.In mainland china, people from the top to the bottom greatly appreciate foreigners who try to speak Chinese,no matter how little and how bad, because it shows they have taken the trouble to learn it,which in turn shows an interest in China and its culture.<br />
Vitaly,your point is also incorrect and equally ridiculous. There is no such common rule.If you think there is, state your reference and whose rule it is. if you cannot, then stop trying to introduce silly arguments.<br />
It is quite obvious that just because someone is addressed in a particular language, he may not reply in that language because he nmay not speak it, so what are you talking about? Prime Minister Rudd is well known and popular in China, because whethere he is being interviewed by Chinese journalists, or addressing a meeting, or just talking to ordinary Chinese, they can understand him.If you can&#8217;t, that is your problem. I just wish I could speak Mandarin as well as him, but in the meantime, my mainland Chinese wife and all our family are quite happy with the little I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mingers</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4390</link>
		<dc:creator>Mingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea what school Kevin Rudd attended to learn his Chinese?  He apparently learned his Chinese or &quot;finished&quot; it in Taiwan, but I&#039;m really curious what school he attended.  Both &lt;a href=&quot;http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~iclp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ICLP&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://mtc.ntnu.edu.tw/indexe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mandarin Training Center&lt;/a&gt; now called something else I can never remember are good candidates.  Could he be another &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Chinese_Language_Program&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Colin Pine (ICLP)&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea what school Kevin Rudd attended to learn his Chinese?  He apparently learned his Chinese or &#8220;finished&#8221; it in Taiwan, but I&#8217;m really curious what school he attended.  Both <a href="http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~iclp/" rel="nofollow">ICLP</a> and the <a href="http://mtc.ntnu.edu.tw/indexe.html" rel="nofollow">Mandarin Training Center</a> now called something else I can never remember are good candidates.  Could he be another <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Chinese_Language_Program" rel="nofollow">Colin Pine (ICLP)</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4389</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ow, listening to Rudd&#039;s Chinese is a worry..is truly scary how rapidly one&#039;s Chinese goes to pot if one doesn&#039;t speak it regularly. That said I thought he a reasonable job, but he is certainly not &quot;fluent&quot;.

It seems  your other posters missed the joke in the second video. I thought it was hilarious, and that when the guy started speaking Chinese he sounded exactly like someone wh o has been coached in the Chinese needed, and who evetually gives up cos he knows the audience doesn&#039;t understand anyway ..great stuff. And the subtitles just got funnier and funnier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ow, listening to Rudd&#8217;s Chinese is a worry..is truly scary how rapidly one&#8217;s Chinese goes to pot if one doesn&#8217;t speak it regularly. That said I thought he a reasonable job, but he is certainly not &#8220;fluent&#8221;.</p>
<p>It seems  your other posters missed the joke in the second video. I thought it was hilarious, and that when the guy started speaking Chinese he sounded exactly like someone wh o has been coached in the Chinese needed, and who evetually gives up cos he knows the audience doesn&#8217;t understand anyway ..great stuff. And the subtitles just got funnier and funnier.</p>
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		<title>By: Keywords &#187; 陸克文</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4388</link>
		<dc:creator>Keywords &#187; 陸克文</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Mark found some video of Kevin Rudd speaking Chinese. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4387</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was on a Chinese station.  The interviewer &lt;i&gt;asked&lt;/i&gt; him if he could speak some Chinese for his viewers.  And, &quot;the guy&quot; is the prime minister of Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was on a Chinese station.  The interviewer <i>asked</i> him if he could speak some Chinese for his viewers.  And, &#8220;the guy&#8221; is the prime minister of Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitaly</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the common rule is to answer in the same language that you were asked in. In the first video Australian guy repeatedly violates this principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the common rule is to answer in the same language that you were asked in. In the first video Australian guy repeatedly violates this principle.</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4385</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i make fun of chinese pronunciation when i want to tease my chinese husband, but i don&#039;t do it in public cuz i don&#039;t want others to make fun of chinese people and hurt my daughters&#039; feelings. they have heard the ching chong ching chong routine before, to which we have advised them to reply &#039;ching chong ching chong- you daddy king kong?&#039; .  once my husband was told by a guy in line  with him to stop speaking chinese since this was america. my husband replied that since this was the united states of the american, had the freedom of the speak. that shut the other guy up good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i make fun of chinese pronunciation when i want to tease my chinese husband, but i don&#8217;t do it in public cuz i don&#8217;t want others to make fun of chinese people and hurt my daughters&#8217; feelings. they have heard the ching chong ching chong routine before, to which we have advised them to reply &#8216;ching chong ching chong- you daddy king kong?&#8217; .  once my husband was told by a guy in line  with him to stop speaking chinese since this was america. my husband replied that since this was the united states of the american, had the freedom of the speak. that shut the other guy up good.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Roy</title>
		<link>http://toshuo.com/2007/kevin-rudds-good-at-chinese-even-bad-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4384</link>
		<dc:creator>Prince Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, who is in that second video?  Is that Bush speaking Spanish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, who is in that second video?  Is that Bush speaking Spanish?</p>
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